The Employee by joshua schwebel
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Berlin

Clive Robertson <███████████████> To: Joshua Schwebel <privatejosh@gmail.com>

Hi Josh,

Thanks for the shout out. I’m in Wellington, Prince Edward County and doing fine. Interested to know how a topic like project v. operational funding becomes prioritized?
Of course I’d like to hear about the project publication.
Is Berlin a residency?
Stay safe.
Clive x

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Josh Schwebel <privatejosh@gmail.com> To: Clive Robertson <███████████████>

hi Clive,
good to hear that you are well and thank you for your quick response.
Briefly (since the project description is below), the project is a new work that I was originally invited to develop by Matt Kyba at Forest City Gallery. The project research took inspiration from Policy Matters, and I think that there is a great deal of crossover between the project and your work as a cultural organizer and advocate for artist-run culture -- I hope you'll see the link.
The publication will be published at the conclusion of the project, so the text itself is not due until next year at the earliest.  
Below is a copy of my project proposal.
Please do let me know if you would be interested, I have been thinking of you for this text for a while, and would be honoured if you would be willing to contribute to the publication.
best wishes,
Josh
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Josh Schwebel <privatejosh@gmail.com> To: Clive Robertson <███████████████>

dear Clive,
I just wanted to check, as I haven't heard from you, how to interpret your silence. I would be honoured if you are interested in writing about this project, but if you're not, I would like to avoid any awkwardness or misunderstanding by receiving a clear answer on your part. 
warm wishes for your good health, and thank you for the incredible work you have done for artist-run culture in Canada.
best,
Josh

Clive Robertson <███████████████>

Hi Josh,

Apologies for not responding quickly, have prioritized other time-sensitive projects - yes, clearing brush. So no misinterpretations of silence - as Mr. Cage might say.

Thanks for the invite. The essay should be possible. I have some questions about the project, what it is, what you are trying to accomplish. 

You say you have a desire to “repair the precarity and lay bare the systemic shortfalls…” Am guessing the latter would include why peer artists/administrators don’t think that “regional” spaces (like Forest City) are generally not as worthy of funding as that enjoyed by their metropolitan counterparts? Forest City sounds in a bad way. Why save it? Because of its history? I know this phenomenon well.

I do understand the approach/genre but what benefits does the local community derive from you doing this work as a conceptual artwork? And the artwork includes hiring a “qualified arts worker” who is not you? And this person is your employee?

And the success of this project is partially measured by the contract worker raising more money for Forest City so its paid employees increase from 2 - 3?

I think the project and/or its politics would benefit from a consultation with me (here being serious and sardonic) and/or a simple Skype/Zoom date so we can talk through this in more detail??

In the meantime I’ll see what I can find out about the current Forest City.

I do think the best collaboration with you might be a critical engagement that includes a short essay. (Don’t worry too much about $$. 650.00 sounds fine.)

Hoping this is the response you wanted.

Thanks, Clive







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Clive Robertson <███████████████> To: Josh Schwebel <privatejosh@gmail.com>

Just to add - I wasn’t meaning to be either be rude or invasive. Your project makes sense. We could I feel have an interesting Skype exchange. 

Clive


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Josh Schwebel <privatejosh@gmail.com>

dear Clive,
thank you for your double response.
I realize from your email that I was unclear regarding the terms of the project, and also jumped the gun a few steps.
I do think it would be helpful to speak over video - skype, zoom, however.
It would be good to speak about your questions, and to get a feel for your sense of the project, and if you think that it is a topic and project worth writing about.
I have already received funding from the CCA to do it: the work is just beginning but is already underway.
I have some answers to your questions below, but am happy to speak about this more.
I am not so interested in the question of regionalism, which I know Greg Curnoe made a point of at the beginnings of FCG.
I am approaching this from a concern for the employment conditions in artist-run culture, and more generally within not-for-profit organizations, namely, that the programming work is of a quality comparable to that of more prestigious art institutions, but the salary / operating budget is immeasurably smaller. So the project begins from an awareness of the working conditions of staff at arcs.
This is combined with an interest in the ways that arts funding bodies 'sculpt' the cultural field, by which I mean that funding bodies determine which forms of culture are prioritized, expressed, and made visible, by choosing which funds to make available, and in what quantity (for example the pre-covid pressure towards art with new technologies and collaborations with tech startups (see the "creative strategy" of the Canadian govt, which I see as evidence of a neoliberal pressure on artists to categorize them as creative entrepreneurs [ie for profit]).
Part and parcel of the neoliberal redirection of CCA is the greater availability of project grants as compared to operating grants.
This type of short-term funding generates the appearance of support, but also creates a structure of constant precarity, and administration (having to reapply for funding rather than receiving continuous support). This is relatively invisible to artists, who invariably are only eligible for project funds. This affects more marginalized ARCs, however. Since FCG already only has a single employee, it is faced with an overwhelming task: it is not possible for a single person to do all the work that is necessary to operate the centre. By way of my project, I am trying to create a supplement that both makes visible this lack, and augments it in an artificial way. By pointing my supplementary labour towards fund-raising, and supporting it by way of CCA (artist's) funding, the project has a recursive structure that circles around the austerity imposed upon operational budgets of ARCS. 
While the 'success' of the project's enactment might be an increase in operational funding, the success of the project, for me, lies in the way it draws attention to the working conditions on the frame of artist-run culture, and the funding application procedure that frames those working conditions.
I am not sure if this answers your questions, but maybe it gives you a better sense of where I am coming from.
Let me know when would be a good time for you to speak, 
and take care,
Josh



Clive Robertson <███████████████>

Hi Josh,

Maybe we can Skype/Zoom this Sunday or next week if you prefer. Its better for me to do it earlier my time like 8.00am which would be 2.00pm Berlin. I’d like to send you some gentle criticism of what I perceive are some gaps in your analysis i.e. what is and what has made some arcs and arcs generally more precarious than others. Funding agencies and their neoliberalism exacerbates the problem. Artists/cultural workers surrender their agency or the promise of such agency too easily and have since end of 70s. Funding agencies will not take no for an answer and in fact like to make it known that a majority of its constituents will follow any changes that are made. If you want a tsunami look at or make an argument why arts funding should be more fairly divided between artists and organizations. 

You are the expert on tracking and defining what is going on most recently. So yes I do want to think more about this and write down what might be useful for us to discuss. 

Happy you received funding - it is an acknowledgement of using art as a way of redirecting funding from one function to another and thus is an institutional critique. I used my own grants to fund Voicespondence which was ineligible for operational funding.

Right now I have to organize the paperwork for my taxes. Going to Kingston on Thursday and will be back the same day.

Stay safe. Clive


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Josh Schwebel <privatejosh@gmail.com>

dear Clive,
I would be happy to have this conversation with you.
I think I should have approached you first with a request for a conversation about the project. 
I do agree entirely with your assessment of the relationship between arcs and council, and look forward to discussing this further, and to speaking with you!
Sunday would be fine for me. 2pm works.
Should we try skype? my skype ID is ███████████
Good luck with your taxes, and stay healthy,
Josh